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Doctor warns against vaccines

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GUBAT, Sorsogon, March 24, 2014 – It seems almost like conventional wisdom to many, but according to a well-known obstetrician and gynecologist, vaccines may not exactly be the best safeguard against diseases.

In a talk given last March 22 at the Our Lady of Peñafrancia Chapel in barangay Tiris, Dr. Eleanor de Borja-Palabyab, MD, Doctors for Life Philippines (DFLph) president said, vaccines that are injected into the human body contain mercury and formalin that are harmful to the body and brain, These vaccines, she added, also cause autism.

The ob-gyne admitted that generally physicians have no definite idea about how vaccines are produced, except the fact that vaccines are live attenuated viruses injected into the body to provide immunity so that when the animated viruses threaten to infect the system, it can repel them.

De Borja-Palabyab herself is not vaccinated. But she had not been infected with chicken pox and other viral diseases. The only vaccine she had ever received is one for hepatitis virus, which may infect physicians during surgical operations.

“Virus and bacteria cannot grow without an unclean condition,” she said. “I’m talking about how vaccines are produced. Vaccines are grown on animal or human tissue.”

Aborted fetuses are used to produce live attenuated vaccines, De Borja-Palabyab also revealed. They are also used in the preparation of food ingredients in countries where abortion is legal. She cited two locations, one in the West, the other in Asia.

Today, two human diploid cell lines originally prepared from tissues of two fetuses aborted in 1964 and 1970, and are used to produce vaccines, a Vatican document said.

The first is the WI-38 line (Winstar Institute 38), with human diploid lung fibroblasts from an aborted female fetus, the document said. The other is the MRC-5 line (Medical Research Council 5), with human diploid lung fibroblasts from a 14 week-old aborted male fetus.

About 5 brands of vaccines for rubella (German measles) are using the WI-38 ad MRC-5 lines to produce live attenuated viruses, the document said.

In conclusion, the doctor encouraged the attendees to focus instead on having a healthy lifestyle, by eating the proper nutrients, exercise, good sleep, and not by vaccines, she said. (Oliver Samson)

 

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57 Responses to Doctor warns against vaccines

  1. I didn’t think that this stupidity will take hold in the Philippines. It is important to evaluate the sources of information. This doctor is an idiot.

    Ricky abeje
    March 25, 2014 at 9:51 pm
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  2. Even if vaccination does cause autism, which it doesn’t, it is still far better than none. Please watch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo

    Tony
    March 25, 2014 at 10:02 pm
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  3. And what’s the basis of that physician’s statement? It’s true that some vaccines do have those substances, but from what I get, they’ve been phased out, or the amount of substance is too minute to be connected to autism, etc. The statement seems to be all-encompassing, so I’d like to know her basis for that broad statement, given that the article claims to tell the ‘truth about vaccines.’

    “Thou shalt not give false witness unto thy neighbor.”

    zzzz
    March 25, 2014 at 10:28 pm
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  4. Please remove this article. This is very irresponsible. Dont just publish an article based on one individual. This article will kill thousands of babies. Actually, getting them killed is much better, as this article would make the children suffer with diseases. Konting isip naman. So you think this certain doctor is better than the World Health Organization? Im catholic, but this is just plain irresponsibility on your part. Though this isnt about religion. This is about responsible journalism.

    poorjuan
    March 25, 2014 at 11:38 pm
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  5. http://www2.aap.org/immunization/families/autismwakefield.html

    Please clarify your sources. The study linking vaccines and autism has been retracted.

    BGV
    March 25, 2014 at 11:40 pm
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  6. It seems that there are people that still believe these kind of hoaxes.

    First of all, the heavy metal mercury (or in this case is actually thiomersal, an organic mercury compound used as a preservative) does not contribute to autism, nor does formaldehyde (aka formalin). These two compounds are used as preservative in vaccines. Currently the scientific consensus about thiomersal/mercury in vaccines and autism is that there are no (convincing) scientific evidence that these two are linked, and even though the compound is being phased out (only as a precaution) since the last decade autism growth rates still increase. Furthermore, clinical symptoms for autism and mercury poisoning are significantly different. Also it is used for vaccines that require more than one dose.

    As for formaldehyde/formalin, it is used (in low concentrations) to deactivate the needed bacteria/viruses to develop the immune system while killing all unwanted bacteria/viruses that may be present as a contaminate during production. It is also used for antibiotics for urinary tract infections in the form of its derivative, methenamine (aka hexamethylenetetramine; which will be converted into formaldehyde in the kidneys as an anti-bacterial agent for the infection), and also in other topical creams, personal hygiene products and cosmetics. Only in high concentrations and/or prolonged use of formalin-based products may cause cancer (just like vitamin A which is toxic in high concentrations).

    (Actually one of the proponents of this controversy between vaccines and autism was Andrew Wakefield, who was later found out that he manipulated and falsified evidence on his 1998 research paper on The Lancet, one of the oldest peer-reviewed medical journal in history. His paper was later redacted in 2004 and in 2010, and was stripped of his profession as a doctor.)

    Second, it is true that aborted fetuses were used in the production of those two vaccines mentioned above. However, it is also stated that [sic] “…but is to be understood as being a passive material cooperation and, in its mildest and remotest sense, also active, morally justified as an extrema ratio {i.e. last resort} due to the necessity to provide for the good of one’s children and of the people who come in contact with the children”, especially if it does not physically affec the recipients and there are no viable alternatives to such vaccines.

    My two centavos.

    Rafael
    March 26, 2014 at 12:29 am
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  7. At least get your sources from qualified people. It’s already 2014 you guys might forget.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/

    (CNN) — A now-retracted British study that linked autism to childhood vaccines was an “elaborate fraud” that has done long-lasting damage to public health, a leading medical publication reported Wednesday.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/Autism/antigens.html

    It adds to the conclusion of a 2004External Web Site Icon comprehensive review by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) that there is not a causal relationship between certain vaccine types and autism.

    Ryan Pondales
    March 26, 2014 at 1:58 am
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  8. According to the National Catholic Bioethics center:

    “Descendant cells are the medium in which these vaccines are prepared. The cell lines under consideration were begun using cells taken from one or more fetuses aborted almost 40 years ago. Since that time the cell lines have grown independently. It is important to note that descendant cells are not the cells of the aborted child. They never, themselves, formed a part of the victim’s body.”

    The American Academy of Pediatrics, the Centers for Disease Control Prevention, the World Health Organization, and the Institute of Medicine all agree that there’s probably no relationship between autism and vaccines. It amazes me that Dr. Eleanor de Borja-Palabyab, MD,can so casually say that “vaccines cause autism.” Perhaps Doctora may want to keep up with new research. All you’re doing is highly irresponsible scare-mongering which may lead parents to cause their children, and the people they come in contact with, serious harm.

    Meg
    March 26, 2014 at 2:56 am
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  9. The lady should return her MD asap. I hope for her she has a good liability insurance. With some likelyness she will need it one day when she faces a class action lawsuit of all the victims who’s parents followed her medieval superstitions.

    Greetings from Europe.

    Rick O'Sheh
    March 26, 2014 at 3:48 am
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  10. Oh no…the CBCP is joining the anti-vac crowd?

    The Catholic Church used to be an advocate of science.

    Michael W
    March 26, 2014 at 4:14 am
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  11. This is the kind of medicine that is being advocated by grossly misinformed people. There’s one thing to inform people about the benefits and adverse effects of anything we introduce into our body (including “natural products”), but I think it is very irresponsible to “demonize” vaccines this way. Not even sure if this news report is actually the one really painting a bad picture of vaccines, or the speaker. And just so that everyone knows: the journal article that purportedly linked vaccines and autism has been withdrawn after peer review, and the primary author of the article is already a discredited doctor, stripped of his license to practice medicine in the United Kingdom. He is now in Texas trying to practice.

    Vincent
    March 26, 2014 at 4:21 am
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  12. Excuse me but…did the esteemed OB-Gynecologist know that the very studies she cited were already RETRACTED because they were found out to be FRAUDULUENT?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/

    J. Cruz
    March 26, 2014 at 8:42 am
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  13. This article is quite alarming. Dr de Borja-Palabyab should first inform herself about the truth regarding vaccines. What she shared is equivalent to catholic blasphemy! STOP SPREADING LIES!

    concerned doctor
    March 26, 2014 at 9:13 am
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  14. Seriously, CBCP?!

    So, What's News?
    March 26, 2014 at 10:22 am
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  15. May I ask the credentials of the “doctor” cited in this article?
    Are you sure you want to risk millions of lives by irresponsibly publishing an article that has been debunked and refuted thousands of times? … http://www.mamamia.com.au/vaccinations/anti-vaccination-advocate-takedown/

    So you want the people living by the riverside, or by the train tracks or informal settlements to have “a healthy lifestyle, by eating the proper nutrients, exercise, good sleep and not by vaccines”? That’s very achievable indeed. Such advice could really save more lives than the disease prevention vaccines has been offering for decades.

    Jong Tordesillas
    March 26, 2014 at 10:56 am
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  16. This whole “vaccines cause autism” issue has already been disproven before, has it not? If I remember correctly, the proposition in the first place was a faulty study with faulty data.

    Chris
    March 26, 2014 at 11:51 am
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  17. Dear CBCP,

    I hope that this article is not a biased article, so I would like to request someone, with credible background, post an article on the same site the view the other opinions so that we, the readers, can see the whole picture and for us to judge with divine guidance what really we should do.

    This is because I’ve heard that there are recurrence of preventable diseases such as measle in the US and other country such as japan after the withdrawal of compulsary vaccinations. Additionally, they said that the autism in japan does not decrease also after withdrawal of vaccines.

    Please help.

    Thank you,

    L.Cabria

    Lysander Cabria
    March 26, 2014 at 12:13 pm
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  18. smh.. to both the doctor mentioned and the writer of this post… *big sigh* *facepalm*

    Segunda
    March 26, 2014 at 1:26 pm
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  19. Studies finding no causal link between vaccines and autism are more prominent than that one single study which found a link and which was later found faatally flawed. (Info here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65l1YAVaYc).

    And the argument about fetuses being used to make vaccines is not an argument against vaccination. It’s an argument for making medically ethical ways to make vaccines.

    Plus the link between fetus use (if true) and abortion rates are correlative and causative. Women will not have more abortions because fetuses are used to make vaccines. One does not cause the other.

    Jackson Cole
    March 26, 2014 at 1:27 pm
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  20. I must politely opine that modern medicine does not link autism to vaccines. It was based on an outdated survey (not a study–a survey) published in Britain’s Lancet which has since been disowned. A quick overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65l1YAVaYc.

    If fetuses are used to make vaccines, the solution is not to junk vaccines. It’s to find ways to make vaccines without using fetuses. This can be done. In fact, the first time I’ve heard of the “vaccines come from fetuses” angle is from Dra. Borja-Palabyab. This would be morally reprehensible if true, but the solution is not to ban vaccines but to make them ethically.

    I also find this fetus assertion suspicious because it’s so unnecessary. A vaccine is just a stripped-down virus that’s harmful enough to elicit an immune response and build up resistance but too benign to cause lasting damage. Why does one need a fetus to cultivate thee viruses?

    Lastly, I have no personal nor political agenda in posting this. I just believe that in the long run it’s far riskier to let a child die from a disease that has a vaccine compared to just letting him go un-vaccinated. My agenda if ever is the protection of human life.

    Jake Roberts Allen
    March 26, 2014 at 2:25 pm
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  21. It’s irresponsible for you to disseminate information that is that is blatantly unscientific and not true. There is no scientific proof that vaccines contain levels of mercury that are harmful to the body. Not only do you cite outdated studies, but also use “anti-vaxxer” wisdom that is based on correlation between two facts, anecdotal evidence and simple fear-mongering.

    The anti-vaccine movement has contributed to the emergence of deadly childhood diseases like polio, measles and whooping cough in developed countries. By publishing this doctor’s “opinion” (she herself states that she was never vaccinated), you are condoning a life-threatening stance that threatens the health of thousands of Filipinos. We are still fighting polio. We are still fighting chicken pox simply because people have NO ACCESS to vaccines and free vaccinations. Please stop endorsing information like this.

    Rosemarie Urquico
    March 26, 2014 at 3:13 pm
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  22. Lovely, your source conflict with your message.

    Immunize.org is a pro vaccination website.

    http://i.imgur.com/t2eSpUh.png

    There’a a big knowledgebase containing some FAQs about Vaccinations, why don’t you give them a read?

    http://www.immunize.org/concerns/

    Paolo
    March 26, 2014 at 5:16 pm
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  23. http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertpearl/2014/03/20/a-doctors-take-on-the-anti-vaccine-movement/2/
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danmunro/2014/01/23/big-data-crushes-anti-vaccination-movement/

    A Doctor’s Take On The Anti-Vaccine Movement
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    In the United States, we are witnessing the scientifically ignorant and sometimes deadly impact of an anti-vaccine movement. Individuals who support the movement continue to question the safety and necessity of vaccines despite extensive medical literature to the contrary.

    When laboratory-produced vaccines were first introduced over 50 years ago, there were legitimate concerns about their safety. Many vaccines in their older forms were associated with the risk of rare but dangerous reactions.

    The vaccines we use today have minimal risks and an extremely safe track record. They have undergone rigorous testing and scrutiny by the scientific community and have proven their effectiveness in large-scale clinical trials.

    As a result, the days of school closures for measles and pertussis outbreaks have become a relic of the past. The side effects from vaccines are almost always mild. And even in the extremely rare case of a more serious allergic reaction, physicians and their staff are trained to deal with it.

    Simply put, the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks.

    Yet for the last two decades, fear mongers associated with the anti-vaccine movement in the U.S. and other developed countries have convinced some parents to refuse to vaccinate their kids.

    The result is an erosion in health gains, both individual and collective. And in some parts of the country, we are witnessing a reversal of what many believe is one of the greatest advances in medical science in the last century.

    The Fear Mongering Behind Measles And Whooping Cough

    Measles and whooping cough are very serious, highly contagious respiratory diseases spread through the air by breathing, coughing or sneezing.

    Although their clinical symptoms are different, both carry risks of long-term problems and even death.

    Measles begins with fever, runny nose, cough and a rash all over the body. Before the introduction of a measles vaccine in 1963, hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. contracted the disease annually. Thousands were permanently disabled and between 400 and 500 people died. But since 1963, reported cases fell to less than a thousand a year.

    Things started changing in 1998 when a British physician published a study in “The Lancet” medical journal that falsely asserted a connection between autism and the combined measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine.

    An investigation into the work revealed the research was unethical and rife with conflicts of interest. The article was filled with false and fraudulent data, and the health care risks described have been completely discredited. In 2010, the paper was fully retracted from “The Lancet,” a remarkable event in the world of peer-reviewed journals.

    But the damage was done. Vaccination rates in the UK plummeted and reported cases of measles soared. In the U.S., new measles cases have tripled as of 2013, with reported outbreaks in eight American communities. The recent outbreak in New York City has sickened at least a dozen people.

    Meanwhile, whooping cough, a highly contagious bacterial infection, has seen a huge increase in the number of people infected each year.

    The incidence of whooping cough was relatively low in the U.S. – around 5,000 cases annually – when vaccination was the unchallenged standard of care. But the impact of the anti-vaccine rhetoric and associated fear has contributed to several outbreaks across the United States and Europe, resulting in multiple infant deaths.

    Jon
    March 26, 2014 at 6:56 pm
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  24. This article makes me worried. Please, currently there is a resurgence of preventable diseases in the West due to the increasing number of parents who did not have their children vaccinated. Vaccination is not a 100% defense, but it works in 70-90% of the population. The point is to have herd immunity, which means, that the less number of people getting infected, the less chances for the pathogen to spread amongst the human population. Hence, the reason why some people can go without vaccination within society, because most of the people surrounding the person has been vaccinated, and so the infection does not get passed on to the more vulnerable.

    Infections like pertussis (which have been prevented through vaccines) have claimed the lives of a lot of infants. Small pox and polio are near eradication because of vaccines as well, when they were once so common.

    Further there is no solid evidence proving that vaccines cause autism, the study that has produced these findings has been retracted due to fraud. We also have to consider how with the improvement of medicine we are able to better diagnose autism (and hence, the seeming rise) and to address this with appropriate therapy. In the past, when this was not possible, parents cooped their children within their homes.

    Formaldehyde or formalin, is used to inactivate the viruses/bacteria that are introduced into the body, they are removed in the process although residual amounts can be found. These levels are considered safe. The human body itself synthesizes formaldehyde. This chemical can also be found in hair shampoo.

    Mercury, or more appropriately, thimerosal, a derivative of mercury (thimerosal is not equal to mercury), is a preservative used in vaccines. There is no evidence of its toxicity in vaccines.

    Also, vaccines are produced in the most sterile of environments. Most reagents are subjected to 121 degree Celsius with 15psi pressure to ensure that all other pathogens are killed including spores or they are filtered through sieves that filter out bacteria.

    The simplest way I can make an analogy of this is, Sodium (Na) and Chlorine (Cl) are in themselves dangerous, but when combined produces NaCl (table salt). Or hydrocholoric acid and sodium hydroxide base are both very dangerous in themselves, but when combined produces water and salt.

    The ‘ingredients’ used to make vaccine may sound intimidating but the final product is something that is safe for human use. There are also several regulations and tests done to ensure their safety before they are being released to the public.

    Influenza virus is produced in the lab through chicken eggs that’s why people are asked if they have chicken or egg allergies before being administered this vaccine. Cell lines are being used in the production of some of the vaccines, I am not sure as to the source of two of them (the ones stated in the article), but this I know. Cell lines have been transformed to suit lab environments, such that they can be grown on their own without the need to go back to the original source.

    To be honest, there is more proof about the harmful effects of cigarette smoking than there is on vaccines.

    I am not denying mothers of their choice because this is a democratic country, but I would wish that they not be devoid of an informed decision.

    I would therefore ask that assumptions or speculations not be made unless they are backed by solid evidence, and that undue fear or worry will not be propagated due to a misunderstanding in the process of making vaccines. Thank you.

    Ciara Lim
    March 26, 2014 at 7:21 pm
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  25. In your article, Dr. Eleanor de Borja-Palabyab, MD, repeats the proven lie that “vaccines cause autism”.

    If this lady is indeed a qualified doctor, she should surely know that former Doctor Andrew Wakefield, the originator of this canard, has been struck off the Medical Register of the United Kingdom for fraud.

    See here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy

    By propagating a proven lie, you are entering upon very dangerous territory. Let us hope that you are able to publish a full retraction and correction before lives are lost.

    Andrew Craig-Bennett
    March 26, 2014 at 7:41 pm
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  26. If you want your children to be sick or die from a preventable disease because of the stupidity of this man then go ahead. Maybe instead of just reporting the vacuous ramblings of this man you should investigate the issue a bit more.

    allen brady
    March 26, 2014 at 8:13 pm
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  27. Wow, this is absurd. Dr. Eleanor de Borja-Palabyab, MD is a doctor and a supporter of the anti vaccination movement. Please stop publishing her ill advice, this is how polio incidences reemerge when parents believe these articles and do not vaccinate their children. Herd immunity produced by vaccinating the majority of the population is the reason she has YET to contract small pox, measles, polio, etc. I emphasize the “yet”. Following her advice “healthy lifestyle, by eating the proper nutrients, exercise, good sleep” won’t protect you from contagious and infectious diseases. Vaccinations will.

    Anita
    March 26, 2014 at 8:57 pm
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  28. Fuck U. Idiots
    March 26, 2014 at 9:08 pm
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  29. the Vatican is NOT an authority when it comes to vaccines, nor is this doctor. she herself admitted that “physicians have no definite idea about how vaccines are produced” k. move on.

    blu
    March 26, 2014 at 11:17 pm
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  30. This may just be scare-mongering. ‘Tis better to first double-check scientific validity and underlying motives of the sources. Do we really want to go back to the dark ages full of disease and death? The benefits of vaccines on our immune systems far outweigh the risks. False and inaccurate claims can be much more deadly. check it out: http://www.npr.org/…/how-vaccine-fears-fueled-the…. and please share.

    HHMorales
    March 26, 2014 at 11:20 pm
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    • Thank you for the comment. It would probably be superfluous to say that this article does not reflect the sentiments of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines and that this is supposed to encourage healthy discussion and continuous learning about conventional wisdom. Though it would be safe to say that the Vatican is not about to issue a circular about vaccines and their supposed evils, the Church is probably open to learning more about it — so should we.

      nirvadel
      March 27, 2014 at 1:35 am
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      • Publishing of this is simply irresponsible and unethical.

        If learning is the objective, publish statistics and validated study.

        Jess
        March 27, 2014 at 6:22 am
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      • It may not reflect the CBCP’s sentiments about vaccines, but allowing the title “The Truth about Vaccines” to be published with this article is very problematic and makes it seem like they’re promoting what this doctor is saying.

        R
        March 27, 2014 at 8:25 am
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      • Misinformation po yang ginagawa ninyo. Kung hindi po yan yung stand ng CBCP, bakit may article na ganyan dito. Nililito nyo lang yung mga constituents ninyo. Hindi pwedeng walang bakuna sa mga anak natin. Mamamatay. That is not so Pro-life. May sapat na research nagpapatunay na yung bakuna nakakasagip ng buhay. You’re not scientists. Baka maniwala sa inyo yung mga tao at magsibalikan yung mga sakit na sisiw na sisiw sa modern medicine dahil sa article na to.

        Jerome
        March 28, 2014 at 7:58 pm
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      • There IS no healthy discussion that can come out of this. Take this article down immediately before your scare-mongering causes actually harm and we find ourselves in the middle of an outbreak.

        Have you actually seen how most Filipinos live? Not everyone is privileged and can afford to live a healthy lifestyle. Some of us just get by.

        Unless this article is just a veiled attempt at eugenics to weed out the poor and unclean…

        Jaives
        March 28, 2014 at 11:58 pm
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      • Then they should take it down from their website. Do you know how much harm statements like these, especially from the CBCP can cause? It reads like a stand, it doesn’t read like a question. Religion and science don’t have to be enemies, but the CBCP owes it to its followers to at least do some research. Wakefield’s research has been debunked many times. When in doubt, I think they should just stick to church matters.

        Katcg
        March 29, 2014 at 9:13 am
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      • There is no debate here. There is no point in having a “healthy discussion” when the other side is peddling lies and misinformation! How can you have a “healthy discussion” when children;s lives are at stake?

        M. Colleen Costello
        April 1, 2014 at 3:40 am
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  31. anonymous person
    March 27, 2014 at 12:58 am
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  32. All this time, I was trying to convince America that vaccines were dangerous (even though I had absolutely no scientific evidence to back up my claims)…when apparently, there’s an even more ignorant country in Asia that will finally support my views!

    Jennifer McCarthy
    March 27, 2014 at 3:04 am
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  33. CBCP, the Vatican’s stance is very clear on this issue. This is fear-mongering on your end. It is very irresponsible to be posting things like this.

    I quote:

    http://www.immunize.org/concerns/vaticandocument.htm

    “As regards the diseases against which there are no alternative vaccines which are available and ethically acceptable, it is right to abstain from using these vaccines if it can be done without causing children, and indirectly the population as a whole, to undergo significant risks to their health. However, if the latter are exposed to considerable dangers to their health, vaccines with moral problems pertaining to them may also be used on a temporary basis. The moral reason is that the duty to avoid passive material cooperation is not obligatory if there is grave inconvenience. Moreover, we find, in such a case, a proportional reason, in order to accept the use of these vaccines in the presence of the danger of favouring the spread of the pathological agent, due to the lack of vaccination of children. This is particularly true in the case of vaccination against German measles15.”

    and in the summary:

    “such cooperation occurs in a context of moral coercion of the conscience of parents, who are forced to choose to act against their conscience or otherwise, to put the health of their children and of the population as a whole at risk. This is an unjust alternative choice, which must be eliminated as soon as possible.”

    Jose
    March 27, 2014 at 9:34 am
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  34. The CBCP should be more careful in allowing articles on medical science that is unverified to be claimed as “truth”. The fact is vaccines have saved countless lives mainly the lives of children. And like any other medical procedure it has risks and in very rare instances some lives have been lost. But the number of lives lost compared to those which have been saved is so exceedingly small.

    Furthermore the 1998 scientific paper linking autism to measles, rubella and mumps has been retracted and a panel of medical scientists have established the unethical research methods and inconclusive data linking autism to vaccination.

    CBCP should never be in the business of promoting unverified medical claims. If a physician claims that vaccination is hazardous then she should provide solid clinical research data to support her claims. If she does not have it, then CBCP should never even think of putting her claims on its website. Furthermore a physician that advocates a medical treatment modality that is not supported by clinical research is unethical since it may endanger people’s lives.

    And the physician’s claim that “doctors have no idea how vaccines are produced” insults medical educators since this topic is taken even in pre-med courses before would be doctors enter medical school.

    Benjamin Vallejo Jr
    March 27, 2014 at 5:01 pm
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  35. Vaccines are created for the prevention of diseases that afflicted many people years ago. They are produced to help us improve our immune system. They undergo different stages of approval. This is not a well researched article which should help people know the truth. I am disheartened by such backward thinking. It is like we are thrown back to the Medieval Ages, where the sun was believed to be the center of the universe. Please be wary about claims about “the truth”.

    Mari
    March 27, 2014 at 6:06 pm
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  36. No, nirvadel. Vaccines have already reduced and prevented many of the dreaded diseases of the past. The burden of providing solid peer-reviewed scientific analysis are those on the “anti-vaccine” movement. This “misinformation” that is causing some people to avoid getting a vaccine which results to an increase in the re-occurrence of these diseases.

    Jon
    March 27, 2014 at 6:53 pm
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  37. Before you even give such advise to your flock, PLEASE, do your homework.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/

    Peachy rallonza-Bretaña
    March 27, 2014 at 9:39 pm
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  38. For a more humorous discussion on why this article is mind-blowingly irresponsible, please do check

    http://8list.ph/cbcp-the-truth-about-vaccines/

    It pains me that an official Church publication can be manipulated into this plainly unscientific drivel. Will we have an article next on why Creationism is correct and why Galileo is wrong, in the name of learning more about it?

    Francis Euston R. Acero
    March 28, 2014 at 7:24 pm
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  39. That this article was published on the CBCP website is troubling.

    It smells of propaganda, and does not seem to be backed by professional journalism – you know, the kind that does research, checks and double checks facts/data before publishing…

    Another worrying thing about it is that some of the items mentioned are either blatantly false, or are used as (yes I agree with the person who said this) red herrings.

    Do the members of the CBCP really feel this article holds water? I would really like to hear their thoughts on the issue here, on a public forum, or in a public statement made by one of their members or an authorized spokesperson. I’m sure a lot of our other countrymen would like that too.

    Although mistakes are easy to make, this is one that could, potentially cause loss of life, the same lives these “pro-life” advocates propose to protect.

    Jay Yap
    March 28, 2014 at 9:39 pm
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  40. The article related to the MMR vaccine that “caused” autism was done by a British doctor whose license was removed due to falsification of data. There has been a recurrence of measles in the UK due to the statement released by the doctor, causing panic to the public. I hope this does not happen in the Philippines and I hope the CBCP and the said doctor involved would not rely on one or two articles about what’s “true” with vaccines because vaccines has been proven for years now and has helped saved lives of millions already. Please be sure to validate facts before releasing it to the public. healthy life style and proper nutrition does not cure rabies.

    Mary Anne Andres
    March 29, 2014 at 1:39 am
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  41. This article is dangerous nonsense.

    Get your children their vaccinations, people.

    Childrens’ health should outweigh parents’ rights to make bad decisions.

    Mark W.
    March 29, 2014 at 7:47 am
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  42. Did CBCP post this as news – because the talk was done at a chapel – or as official pronouncement? Shouldn’t the organizers of the talk have presented two speakers, one to speak against vaccines, and the other to speak for vaccines? This article is very confusing.

    Harvey V. Chua
    March 29, 2014 at 10:02 am
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  43. Wow. What in irresponsible article.
    I dont see any actual valid studies made to support any of the claims it makes
    It even goes so far as to mention an anecdotal evidence as a valid point. Just bacause a person didnt take any vaccine and is “ok” today, it doesnt mean it’s ok to do the same
    Come on, CBCP, you know how many uneducated blind followers you have. Be responsible in posting “truths”, will you?!?

    Poit
    March 29, 2014 at 12:00 pm
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  44. I am aghast. Who screens these articles? As a Catholic mother who is also a Pediatrician, I am shocked and, yes, angry that the CBCP would place such a fallacious article on its website. Dr. De Borja-Palabyab’s claims are FALSE. Not only is the assertion hat vaccines cause autism a lie, so is the assertion that the Vatican advises against vaccination because of the cell culture medium. Please take this article off your website!

    M. Colleen Costello
    March 30, 2014 at 8:52 am
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  45. I think it would be more helpful if more credentials of Dr. Borja-Palabyab were presented. Just because she’s a doctor, doesn’t always mean she’s always right. For example, the photo caption is very misleading. We scientists very well know that just because a particular drug or whatever contains a particular compound, it doesn’t mean it’s unsafe. Yes, vaccines may or may not contain mercury and formaldehyde, but it might be in such low concentrations that they should not harm the body. Those must be just there to stabilize the the drug. Do you know what else contains formalin? APPLES. Yet, it’s the fruit of the popular term “an apple a day keeps the doctor away”.
    Also, the doctor claiming that vaccines cause autism has been stripped of his license and his paper was proven to fraud. So please, be responsible enough to do the pertinent background research before writing these articles. Failure to do so results in widespread misinformation.

    Blink
    March 30, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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  46. This article is highly irresponsible and you’ve had ample time to consider retracting it.

    Concerned
    March 30, 2014 at 4:02 pm
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  47. “The ob-gyne admitted that generally physicians have no definite idea about how vaccines are produced, except the fact that vaccines are live attenuated viruses injected into the body to provide immunity so that when the animated viruses threaten to infect the system, it can repel them.”

    You can’t take the word of one physician and allow him or her to speak for all other physicians in general, unless he/she is an expert in the matter, which he/she clearly is not- at least, I don’t see it in this article. One physician won’t be able to inform you accurately of what all physicians know or do. Check the credibility of your sources; don’t take into account the word of only one person, but the words of many, and then decide from there. You won’t have a very solid defense for your statements if you are backed by only one person or source, after all.

    As far as I know, the formalin and mercury content in vaccines are so minuscule that they cannot affect the body. I asked my parents, who are both doctors; one is in Gastroenterology and the other is in Otolaryngology. Though I won’t say that this information is final and completely true of course, since it’s only coming from two medical doctors, but based on the fact that they’ve undergone years of education, training, and practice, they should know about these things. Doctors SHOULD know what they’re doing, otherwise there is something horribly wrong with the system in the field of medicine. This is different from a person speaking for a group of people, which is quite possibly highly inaccurate unless it was taken from careful research, as it is very difficult to gather the opinion of a collective group.

    I don’t see enough proof from this article that tells me that vaccines are harmful to humans, and the information coming from ONE PHYSICIAN does not help the case at all. As far as I am concerned, no product is ever released to the public without undergoing extensive and meticulous research and experimentation in order to ensure its safety. Isn’t that what medical researchers are for? That’s their life’s work. Saying that doctors know little about vaccines sounds rather fishy and terribly wrong- it isn’t right. Like I said, they should know what they’re doing. People’s lives are at stake.

    hannah
    March 30, 2014 at 9:07 pm
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  48. This is utter stupidity. Where are the valid evidences that vaccines are produced from fetuses, yes we have to be careful concerning autism and vaccines but to totally avoid vaccines is utter nonsense and very backward thinking.

    I do agree that the CBCP is not the leading expert in Medicine and whose “opinions” should be treated as such. Even the word uttered by Dr. Eleanor de Borja-Palabyab, MD without valid evidence based on research and study should be considered an “opinion”

    My opinion is…if you trust your Doctor and have done research on the Vaccine he/she is recommending, go and have your child vaccinated.

    Believing the “opinions” of these “Church Leaders” who have nothing to do with Medicine is the same as believing in “Faith Healers”.

    Which based on the article…could be said of the same.

    You believe God will protect you…but you still lock your doors at night.

    Smith
    March 31, 2014 at 4:23 pm
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  49. I am a Roman Catholic and a physician as well. I do not agree with the statements made by Dra. Palabyab. People, get your kids vaccinations ( adult vaccinations are also available ,eg Hepa A and B ,yellow fever, etc.)
    Remember that prevention is better than a cure.
    I find this article to be irresponsible and dangerous as it could cause confusion, especially to our poor and illiterate countrymen.

    Bong Abella
    April 1, 2014 at 4:17 pm
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  50. I thought I was reading something from The Onion. Congratulations, CBCP News.

    Weel
    April 1, 2014 at 7:00 pm
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