CBCP props TRO vs order to remove ‘Team Patay’ tarp

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MANILA, March 5, 2013—A ranking Catholic Church official called on the Commission on Elections to respect the Supreme Court’s temporary restraining order against their order to remove the controversial tarpaulin at the San Sebastian Cathedral in Bacolod City.

Archbishop Jose Palma, Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines president, said the court has made a decision for the meantime and it should be respected.

“In the land, they are the people who interpret the law. As people, we should also be law-abiding citizens. So if that is what the SC says, then sorry to the Comelec,” Palma said.

Aside from the TRO, the high tribunal also ordered an oral argument on the case on March 19 in Manila and gave the poll body 10 days to comment on the petition filed by Bacolod Bishop Vicente Navarra.

The poll body earlier ordered the diocese to take down the tarpaulins for supposedly violating the Comelec regulation on campaign materials in private properties.

The tarpaulin lists down some names of senatorial candidates in the upcoming May elections and their stand on the Reproductive Health (RH) Law.

The bets tagged as members of ‘Team Patay’ are Juan Edgardo Angara, Francis Escudero, Loren Legarda, Alan Peter Cayetano, Risa Hontiveros, Teddy Casiño and Jack Enrile.

Party-list groups Gabriela, Bayan Muna, Akbayan and Anak Pawis are also on the Team Patay list.

The six senatorial bets on the diocese’s “Team Buhay” are Joseph Victor Ejercito-Estrada, Antonio Trillanes, Gregorio Honasan, Mitos Magsaysay, Koko Pimentel and Cynthia Villar.

The CBCP head said the Comelec has the right to enforce the law but the question that must be resolved is whether the diocese “bounced out” from its ruling.

“In truth, what they have done is just to tell the people that this is how the candidates in the past voted (over the RH bill)… you should see for yourselves,” said Palma.

More dioceses are also expected to follow the move started by the Bacolod diocese in naming candidates and their stance on the RH law. (CBCPNews)

 

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31 Responses to CBCP props TRO vs order to remove ‘Team Patay’ tarp

  1. Dapat hindi nakikielam ang simbahan sa issue na yan, kung makikielam naman sila dapat din siguro na magkaroon sila ng tax. opinyon lang.

    Sheila
    March 5, 2013 at 6:38 pm
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    • Isa ka siguro sa mga naniniwala na napakalaking mali ang ginawa ng Simbahang Katoliko noong nakialam siya sa pagpapatalsik sa diktadurya ni Marcos at sa baluktot na pamumuno ni Estrada.

      Imago Dei
      March 6, 2013 at 12:58 pm
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  2. Church shouldnt get in the way of comelec,,they should focus in preaching and spreading the good news..

    gervin
    March 5, 2013 at 6:40 pm
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    • Comelec shouldn’t get in the way of the Church. They should focus on candidates and how they campaign.

      Imago Dei
      March 6, 2013 at 1:00 pm
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  3. Asikasuhin na lang ng simbahang katoliko ang pagbabahagi ng magandang balita,,hindi yung sumasawsaw pa sila sa pulitika.

    Jeremy
    March 5, 2013 at 6:42 pm
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  4. Im a catholic but i dont think that church should focus on this matter. kaluluwa na lang sila magfocus.

    Hustin
    March 5, 2013 at 6:43 pm
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    • As if God is only concerned with the soul. Aren’t you bothered that God intends to put the body back together and reunite it with the soul in the last day?

      Imago Dei
      March 6, 2013 at 12:56 pm
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  5. Itigil nyo na yan simbahang katoliko, mga myembro na lang ng simbahan ang pagtuunan ng pansin.

    Jocson
    March 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm
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    • Para kanino ba ang mga posters, di ba para sa mga miyembro ng Simbahan? Kaya nga nasa loob ng simbahan ang mga posters eh.

      Imago Dei
      March 6, 2013 at 1:02 pm
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  6. hindi kaya paninira lang ang pinost na tarp ng diocese of cubao? hindi naman nila tayo ininform. tinuruan lang tayo ng simbahan na manira. diba dapat sila pa ang magtuturo satin magparaya? I’m very disappointed..

    Korina Muncher
    March 5, 2013 at 8:22 pm
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    • Tutol din ako sa pinakita ng simbahan sa masang pilipino.. nakakahiya,, parang ayaw ko na magsimba sa katoliko..

      lezpaul
      March 5, 2013 at 8:25 pm
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      • So quit the Catholic Church. You’ll do us a great favor.

        Imago Dei
        March 6, 2013 at 12:54 pm
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  7. Sa mga nababasa kong post against Catholic Bishops, Priest, Church, nakakalungkot isipin na miyembro kayo sa Simbahan at Katoliko kayo pero ang pananaw ninyo sa mga Obispo, Pari o mga taong Simbahan ay mababaw lamang. Shame on you guys! You need to deepen your faith! Do you think magugustuhan ninyo kung ang mga Obispo, Pari o mga taong Simbahan ay manalangin lamang sa gitna ng mga karahasan, malaganap na taggutom at sakit, korupsyon, at mga imoral na gawain? Hindi. May God forgive you. Kasama ng pagtawag ng Diyos sa kanila ay to act the faith; hindi manalangin lamang. Wholistic calling iyan at gagawin nila in a wholistic approach. Manalangin at kumilos!

    Randy Badal
    March 5, 2013 at 11:57 pm
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  8. now the church is hiding behind the court.. GRABE iba na to

    Jake
    March 6, 2013 at 1:13 am
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  9. hahahaha wala na ata yung separation between church and state! now they’re even trying to take legal means..

    Soccervoy
    March 6, 2013 at 1:15 am
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  10. im getting really sick of the church trying to find ways to promote people… SORRY BUT ITS OBVIOUS! your trying to manipulate people to vote for the people you want to win! sinsira nyo pa yung iba!

    Hanna
    March 6, 2013 at 1:17 am
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  11. some of these so called team patay fight for womens and childrens rights. tapos team patay daw.. sus…

    Dan
    March 6, 2013 at 1:19 am
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    • Children have the right not to be born? That’s funny. I don’t recall children wanting that.

      Imago Dei
      March 6, 2013 at 12:53 pm
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  12. haaay nako… tax nyo nalang sila at parang gusto nila mawala yung hati sa church at state

    Sipol
    March 6, 2013 at 1:21 am
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  13. the supreme court have to decide what is right. ginagamit lang ng church ito para manalo ang mga manok nila shame on you diocese of cubao!

    jackbean0009
    March 6, 2013 at 1:29 am
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  14. the Comelec is right,.. nakikialam sila sa kampanya.. magturo nalang sila sa church hindi ung nanghihimasok pa sa pulitika. lagi nalang ba ganito? panahon pa ni cardinal sin pakelamero na ang simbahan..

    mannypakman
    March 6, 2013 at 1:35 am
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  15. In my point of view, okay lang naman ginawa ng church eh yon naman KATOTOHANAN na dapat malaman ng mga Kristiyano. We are guided with the principles that we should support Life and value life. This is not Politics, this is the truth that will save more souls. Think wise mga KATOLIKO, instead of critizising, let’s support our Church..
    P.S Since the SUPREME COURT made a TRO, then wala na masasabi comelec jan haha

    Kram12
    March 6, 2013 at 1:59 am
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  16. LIKE BONIFACIO,BACOLOD PROVIDED THE SPARK.
    IT IS GOOD THE ARCHDIOCESE OF BACOLOD STARTED THE LABEL: TEAM PATAY (PRO RH) and TEAM BUHAY (ANTI-RH).
    WE MAY USE THE BRANDING “TEAM BUHAY” VS. “TEAM PATAY”.

    ARBP PALMA OF CEBU FOLLOWED. THEN Lipa, Cubao and TARLAC. And now it is Manila.

    FEBRUAY 22, 2013
    IT IS GOOD THE ARCHDIOCESE OF BACOLOD STARTED THE LABEL: TEAM PATAY (PRO RH) and TEAM BUHAY (ANTI-RH).
    WE MAY USE THE BRANDING “TEAM BUHAY” VS. “TEAM PATAY”.

    February 2, 2013
    CATHOLIC VOTE: @200K H4 85ET
    (85 Ecclesiastical Territories to produce 200,000 votes each )

    STRATEGY: With less cost, multiply rapidly and go large scale… nationwide
    1. BACKGROUND: From CBCP statement & newspaper reports

    CBCP: “It is the position the Church …We support and encourage the participation of the laity in electing competent and morally upright candidates who are faithful to their correct and informed conscience.”
    CBCP will support initiatives to choose ‘worthy candidates’

    CBCP also is in interested of the Catholic Vote

    2. SCENARIO

    The Catholic Vote may start dividing the Senatoriables into ‘DEATHS CANDIDATES’ and ‘PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES’

    How to do this?

    Send survey forms/questionnaires re their stand on issues involving DEATHS concerns (Divorce, Euthanasia, Abortion(RHB), Total Reproductive Health, Same sex marriage and Sex Education), their willingness to AMEND the RH LAW and support the issues raised by CBCP 106th Plenary Assembly.

    PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES means ‘DO NOT SUPPORT ALL OF THE DEATHS issues, COMMIT TO AMEND THE RH LAW and support the issues raised by CBCP 106th Plenary Assembly.

    Once finished, come up with CATHOLIC’S PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES in which the Church machinery could rally behind.

    3. HOW TO USE THESE DATA?

    CBCP Website records about 85 ecclesiastical territories (arch/dioceses) nationwide (84 of 85 arch/bishops were present in the 106th CBCP Plenary Assembly).
    Granting that the 85 territories/dioceses could produce 200,000 each (or 17 million) votes for the Catholic Vote, then it would be a sure victory for the PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES.

    Or at the very least the DEATH CANDIDATES are deprived of the same number of votes (17 million).

    And this can win an election in 2016. Consider the last presidential election result:

    Benigno Aquino III -15,208,678 (42.08%); Joseph Estrada – 9,487,837 (26.25%);
    Manny Villar – 5,573,835 (15.42%); Gilberto Teodoro – 4,095,839 (11.33%)

    Remember, in May 2010 elections Sen. Bong Revilla topped and got 19,513,521 or 51.15%.

    Another option (2M @ 6H) that is, for the 2 million hard core pro-life catholics to convince at least 6 each (2 million x 6 = 12 million) enough to win a senate seat for the Church.

    In May 2010 elections, Teofisto Guingona III was last with 10,277,352 votes or 26.94%.

    National registered voters: 51,292,465 (May 2010 Elections)

    Having THIS as campaign platform: CBCP encourages Catholic Vote who in turn supports ‘WORTHY CANDIDATES’.

    Candidates means Senatoriables and congressmen. At the congressional district level (or Party List), 200K are already a swing votes for PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES.

    Put these candidates’ names in a tarpaulin in all parishes. Faith communities may contribute for the tarpaulin to be prominently displayed in parish grounds.

    Catholics must be PRO-ACTIVE. Ensure that those WHO will be elected are PRO-LIFE.

    readmenow2011
    March 6, 2013 at 5:02 am
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  17. Churches should be sanctuaries, not campaign billboards … are you seriously endorsing your “Team Buhay” candidates? Why are you spreading such hatred? Shame on you!

    Sandy Hontiveros
    March 6, 2013 at 7:45 am
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    • Yes, Sandy. The Church is saying vote “Team Buhay” candidates.

      And, guess what, it is also encouraging the faithful not to vote “Team Patay” candidates, such as Lisa Hontiveros —oh, hope you’re not related to her!

      Imago Dei
      March 6, 2013 at 12:46 pm
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    • Following the Leftist line, RHB (Riza Hotiveros
      Baraquel or Reproductive Health Bill) is inclined to the culture of DEATH
      (Divorce, Euthanasia, Abortion(RHB), Total Depopulation, and Homosexual
      Marriage)
      Sporting a beautiful face and says she is “pro-life, pro-choice, and pro-chance” and a product of a Catholic school could be deceptive.

      readmenow2011
      March 6, 2013 at 3:00 pm
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  18. Bishops, Priests and Church Peoples are not spreading hatred or violence. They’re only stating the FACTS based on the results WHO VOTED THE RH BILL in the congress. Check it out guys. HINDI PA NGA NAKASAMA DITO ANG MGA KONGRESISTA NA BUMOTO SA RH BILL KASI PER DISTRITO IYON. AT HINDI MALAYONG ISASALI DIN IYAN TO EDUCATE MORE CHRISTIANS. The fact na hindi mga Obispo, Pari at mga Taong Simbahan ang nagpapatakbo sa gobyerno at walang kumakandidato na active service sa Simbahan, the separation of Church and State ay andoon pa rin. The narrow minded people (am sorry to say this) ay always iba ang pakahulugan.

    Randy Badal
    March 6, 2013 at 3:46 pm
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  19. TO ENLIGHTEN MORE: kung wala ang role na ginampanan ng mga Obispo, Pari, Madre, Seminarista at mga Taong Simbahan sa panahon ng Martial Law; do you think guys makakamit natin ang kapayapaan at kaayusan? They prayed and acted the faith. Hindi sila stagnant that time and until now they are PRO-ACTIVE. Nananalangin at kumikilos dahil wholistic ang vocation na mayroon sila at ito ang panawagan ng Diyos sa kanila. ARM-STRUGGLES ay hindi solusyon. Mas lalu ang violence. THEY WILL ALWAYS BE A PROPHETIC VOICE IN THE MODERN ERA. At lahat tayo ay tinatawag ng Diyos na maging Prophetic Voice. Lahat tayo ay may bokasyon. Again, kulang ang iyong panalangin kung hindi ka kikilos! Dapat BUO ANG IYONG PANANAMPALATAYA – LIKE JESUS WHO ACTED THE FAITH (Nanalangin siya at kumilos) – iyon nga lang ang Panginoon ay ayaw niya ng karahasan; at ganundin ang Simbahan.

    Randy Badal
    March 6, 2013 at 3:59 pm
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  20. FOR REFLECTION: Malaganap na imoral sa society, sige manalangin ka lang. Manalangin at manalangin ka lang na kahit sukang-suka ka na sa iyong mga nakikitang imoral – imoral na mga batas at imoral na mga gawain. Pati iyong mga anak, kapatid, pamangkin, kaibigan ay nalulong sa imoralidad… sige manalangin ka lang. Tingnan natin kung anu ang kalalabasan. Malaganap pa rin na imoralidad. Mananalangin ka lang ba? Ipipikit mo lang ba habang nananalangin ka? Ipagsasawalang-bahala habang nananalangin ka? O kasama ng iyong panalangin ay kumilos ka upang tapusin ang malaganap na imoralidad.

    Randy Badal
    March 6, 2013 at 4:01 pm
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  21. Dominador Medina what if other institutions and private persons (secret friends, supporters of candidates) who have not filed certificates of candidacy put up their own tarpaulins in their private properties facing the street (public)? then politicians can put up propaganda materials of any size within any private property, the excuse being that the owners of the private properties are the ones responsible for said advertisement.

    we have seen the abuse in the PARTY-LIST system – almost anybody, including politicians have been creating party-lists.

    we have to be careful in this matter of propaganda materials too – or else we might be creating another monster.
    about an hour ago · Like

    Nolette Evangelista corek ka dian Father ….
    about an hour ago · Like

    Dominador Medina nolette, minsan kasi hindi comprehensive ang tingin natin. para tayo doctor na nagrereseta ng gamot na tama magaling para sa rayuma, pero may fatal side effect naman sa puso ng particular patient. kelangan malawak ang pananaw natin, hindi makitid na kapiraso lang truth ang ating pinapansin.
    14 minutes ago · Like

    Nolette Evangelista DAPAT MACRO HINDI MICRO
    12 minutes ago · Like

    Dominador Medina para yang larong chess – ang isa mong move dapat mong planuhin bago mo gawin, dahil baka ang move mong yon ay nagbubukas ng moves na kalaban na lugi ka, talo ka. yung gusto mo ma achieve ay lalo hindi makuha – NAISAHAN KA NG KALABAN, KASI NAG MOVE KA NG DI PINALANO ANG CONSEQUENCE. the important thing is not winning or losing a battle. the important thing is winning the war.
    9 minutes ago · Edited · Like

    Nolette Evangelista THAT IS RIGHT — LOOSING THE BATTLE TO WIN THE WAR
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    Dominador Medina perfect, nolette. macro yes, hindi micro.
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    dominador medina
    March 7, 2013 at 11:57 am
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  22. The Church has done correctly.
    Ang Pilipino ay sadyang malimutin;
    Ang Pilipino (karamihan) mula’t sapul ay bubong butanti;
    This is about moral values;
    Dapat lang talaga ang simbahan ay kumilos;
    Dapat ipaalam sa mga botanti kung sino ang mga taong iyon, period.

    Ricky
    March 7, 2013 at 1:05 pm
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